Im aware of contents, but im using contents in other ways- scrappad, tasks, graph… limiting favorites to pages only pretty much turns the leftsidebar almost unusable for me, and i would have to use the contents as favorites (on top of everything else) cluttering it even more
I feel like an outliner relying so much/enforcing individual files goes against its format and philosophy- sure the backend via markdown is awesome, allowing for separation in files is good… but ‘having to’ use pages is speaking against the bottom-up networked ‘wholesome’ database and is confusing for new users. Everything in the app speaks and acts as a whole (its a graph not a folder, a network, a database, the breadcrumbs and zoom treat blocks properly)… i think covering this sort of gap will be good
For example im new to logseq but not that new- ive been tackling pkm in different apps for a long while, have used and hacked at obsidian a lot, compared all alternatives out there (dendron, trilium roam, etc)… and i have been on the foruns and discord figuring out everything in Logseq…
…and despite all that im still struggling with ‘make a page or not’. Sure one part of it regards how everyone organize thenselves, but in similar apps like roam and workflowy that one dilema doesnt exist, one less friction point.
And that friction point gets to me- maybe im alone but ive saw some youtubers voicing the same difficulty (make a page or not)… when im using logseq im hammering at my keyboard and in the flow everything gets in an outline; But then im constantly thinking and sweating over ‘should i turn this into a page?’ - and if i decide to do so i either break my flow making a page, pasting stuff if ive already written for it or i just continue and later on have to return and parse everything ive written deciding what to split and how…
Pages= Nodes, easier referencing, backlinks, favorites
Blocks/Outline= Dont create nodes, no backlinks, no favorites
Ive been trying to adapt and adjust and even found an way where the separation of pages vs blocks helps me a lot- i can keep the graph more meagninfull, clustering topics together i have no reason to be a dozen+ nodes on the graph- wich is very neat…
but then im loosing more precise backlinks and favorites on the process
This is part of a larger discussion i think. Ive only mentioned favorites here because of how feature requests are focused requests, but i see this as part of a combination of suggestions (favoriting blocks, easier referencing blocks, filtering backlinks when blocks are focused)
One of the main appeals/differentials of outliners is that potential- not individual index cards like luhmans old slip box but everything already networked (the outline itself implies a network, a thread of conections in a hierarchy). Trying to escape the ‘make new file everytime’ was what pushed me away from evernote ages ago and obsidian more recently. In obsidian i was missing seeing topics together, having to do mocs by hand or clustering what i wanted as atomic notes in bigger notes (had to choose)… also i was splitting notes all the time
The greatest promise and potential of outlining is in the blocks. One big topic, suddently each and every heading already being ‘its own page’/atomic note…
I dont think its far fetched to expect to reference/link/favorite the branchs
I think (im no coder), a hunch, that Logseq could blur the lines further in the future- so that pages are an option and more of how-it-works-in-the-backend then something the user have to actively think about all the time