After using Logseq as my main for a few years now, I have to leave it and looking for alternatives that easily import my MD files but usues a similar format if/when Logseq becomes usable again for me.
I need mobile (can’t even login to mobile anymore and have been sending them my money but nothing seems to resolve it)
Would prefer a similar format of note taking, Logseq really works for my brain.
Sync needs to work seemlessly (right now I have to login around 25% of the time I open the app, and since I use a pw manager that just ceative continuous small disruptions to workflow).
Other issues I’m facing with Logseq
Can’t login right now to beta or pre-beta desktop app without Logseq immediately crashing.
Was never able to log into online db version and upload my notes. it just hung after uplaoding and never worked.
Would love any suggestions that isn’t a folder system like Obsidian since I already have Apple Notes for that and it’s a mind-melting experience for me.
I’m basically on the search myself right now but have not found a nice solution yet.
What I tried:
switching sync to “manual” via git. works very well for me because I never touched the DB version and I’m quite familiar with git. Especially nice to check when logseq corrupted what file how and to reset that (or other apps for a matter of fact) YMMV
gitjournal for mobile: it is…okay-ish. obviously requires you to have your graph synced via git. does not have a similar format at all except some basic markdown. Has a lot of bugs. But I can search at least some notes on mobile now. And I can make a quick note in a “todo-sort” folder
2.1: note: the quick note workflow of slamming them somewhere to sort later should work with the webview of gitlab, github or what you are using
obsidian: tried opening my vault via that and I think it was faster indexing my 500MB of notes than logseq opening in general. I honestly didn’t notice anything about the folders, I am searching with wiki-links ([[]]) and ctrl-o or what it is there. Pretty sure you make it work good enough-ish with enough plugins, but haven’t gotten there myself yet
vscode/foam/loam/logfoam: Note taking performance is good like with obsidian, less plugins though bc it is primarily a code editor but foam and its forks bring stuff like wiki links. Still working on setting it up in a way compatible to logseq. No hopes for a mobile app though there IMHO
Thanks, these are great suggestions, especially since I can’t log into Logseq’s sync anymore with everythign crashing on desktop and nothing happens on mobile anymore. Today kind of sucked because I was at the doctor and needed a number and mobile just randomly stopped syncing and I had to drive 45 minutes home to get it. Now all important stuff is in Apple Notes till I can find a more reliable alternative. I’ll check out the Obsidian option. My last experience with it was folder based as stock, but I see now tht I’ve imported my notes that it’s not a folder structure for them.
It’s really insane to think a product has received millions in funding, paid opencollective support, and there isn’t so much as the most simple and basic communication to provide some faith in the ecosystem.
It goes without saying everyone has been incredibly patient, but in the age of LLM development, it’s only a matter of time where people spin up their own alternatives and are willing to build more supportive community engagement around their product.
I’ve been in the same boat, many times the iOS app has just failed completely (paid sync supporter etc), so it’s been completely unreliable as a dependable PKM.
Again, it sucks, we all love logseq and want it to succeed, but having zero idea what is going on makes it really difficult to stick around.
I don’t know if it will help you, but I’ve been happily using icloud to sync my md-based logseq graph for over a year. The only real caveat is that you need to remember to refresh/reindex if you’ve made a lot of changes on one device.
Thanks for the Obsidian suggestion. My biggest logseq complaint is the search. It’s just missing stuff for me. Major bummer because I like the daily journal with pages. Sync works mostly for me, but there are some times when it just throws up a ton of errors about pages already existing. Weird.
Ok so about an hour of research later and I basically have my Obsidian running just like Logseq. It’s just a matter of toggling backlink in notes. I did have to go through and “activate” some notes to make this work fully but that’s easy enough using the graph or search. Search is much better and the integration with Gemini (API) is way way better. Sorry Logseq but I think you just lost me.
Interesting. How have you been handling more complex tasks with subtasks etc. I’ve been trying obsidian task notes for a while but the experience still seems a bit jarring.
With Logseq I could have something like
Complete Audit
Prepare
Contact Dept A
Contact Dept B
Send info to manager
Process response
They could all have their own deadline and scheduled and automatically inherited contexts
I’m really struggling to replicate that on Obsidian as much as I really like the overall experience
FYI I’ve been using obsidian for a while now just not for my project management.
Although it would mean stepping away from more open source stuff have you tried Tana? It seems very similar to logseq and is very smooth from what I’ve found.
I logged into my opencollective account to end my contributions for now, I’ve waited years for updates with no word whatsoever, but that said I was surprised to see on top of its $4.5m in capital raised, logseq receives an estimated $263k USD/year in donations with a total of $680k raised.
Yikes, those numbers are wild to still not have basic sync set up. Just give us iCloud sync until they get private sync set up. They clearly have the resources in place.
Even though I cancelled my Open Collective membership, I still use it as my daily driver because I still like it more than any other app out there. Guess I’ll try to figure out other sync options for it.
Tana is wildly confusing for me. It took me weeks to get the basic super tags setup for a very specific thing for work and I eventually stopped using it because as a daily driver it just wasn’t intuitive enough for me.
Thanks this gave me some motivation to dig in a hit again. I think I still prefer Logseq in principle but I might be able to switch. Thanks for helping link . I think last time I looked it was much less mature than this.
I moved to AnyType. Need to figure out how you will use object types to organize your wiki. But I’m pretty happy with it. Also it has nice mobile app and updates usually every ~3 months, development seems active and devs are working with community.
I still hope to test DB version. But looking how devs are just ignore communication part and app is not updated for more then year. There is DB version on github, wich is not so easy to download. Or if I keep using current version, than what happen with my data in next version…
Obsidian is not Open Source, AppFlowy made a FLOSS rug pull as well, AnyType is using MongoDB and cannot switch to PostgreSQL easily and Docmost, Outline or LaSuite Docs are nowhere near Notion/Airtable/Tana/etc.
But the LogSeq v2 Roadmap has been released last week.
. I think last time I looked it was much less mature than this.
. Honestly when I tried Tana it was kind of what I always expected Logseq to be.